What happens when outdated fear still shapes policy? On the latest Plus Talk, Karl is joined by Nick Harrison and Ken Pinkela to unpack the Pentagon’s recent pause on training for people living with HIV – and why many are worried it could lead to a broader enlistment ban. We talk stigma, science, and the real lives impacted when facts get ignored.

🎙️ Ken served in the Army and has been one of the most visible voices pushing back on #HIVStigma.

🎙️ Captain and Attorney Nick Harrison lives with #HIV and is a strong advocate for the rights of service members living with HIV.

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